Not really sure, I received a box from my sister in-law for my B-day a couple of years ago. The box contained an entire Ring Neck Pheasant skin, some turkey, and a large patch of black feathers that I’m using for hackle. I can take a picture of it and post it if you’d like, maybe you canI love the old school wets. I Will post some up soonish. What is your body hackle?